I can hardly fathom such a thing is actually occurring, yet the evidence suggests it is so. Please read this excerpt and decide for yourself whether you’re willing to read the entire article or just click on by:
In March of this year the Pastor, who we shall refer to as Pastor Revere, was invited to attend a meeting of his local FEMA chapter which circulated around preparedness for a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.
The FEMA directors told the Pastors that attended that it was their job to help implement FEMA and Homeland Security directives in anticipation of any of these eventualities. The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to “obey the government” when martial law is declared.
It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the “cowboy mentality” of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure. It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that “this is for their own good.”
-from Secret FEMA Plan To Use Pastors as Pacifiers in Preparation For Martial Law, PrisonPlanet.com, 24 May 2006.
I feel like I woke up in another country and in another era. Where am I? Who am I?
Yes, master….
10 responses so far ↓
1 chow-stl // Jun 1, 2006 at 3:44 pm
This is bizzare. Of particular note is the fact that many zealots of individual rights are also deeply religious. While I am not particulary religious and cannot say what kind of influance a cleric could have over me, I would determine the rightfulness of any corperal goverment action on a per case basis. And if the goverment is violating my rights and the safeguards against protecting those rights in the constitution fail. It would be my patriotic duty to invoke the 2nd amendment not just for the security of my rights, but the rights of my immediate neighbors.
Best Regards.
2 Richard // Jun 1, 2006 at 5:42 pm
I agree completely with what you wrote. As for invoking the 2nd Amendment, did you notice what the quote says about that:
“…quarantines, martial law and forced reloation were a problem for state authorities … due to the ‘cowboy mentality’ of citizens standing up for their … second amendment rights ….”
If that’s what a cowboy is, then y’all bettuh staht callin’ me “Cowboy” right now! :-)
3 chow-stl // Jun 2, 2006 at 9:10 am
You know RH.
If you look critically at the so called ‘cowboy mentality’ you see both sides of the issue. First you had outlaws who misued firearms to advance their agenda. But what most people dont understand that it was firarms, properly used on the side of the law, which subdued the lawlesness. The way i see it, the 2nd amendment is not just a failsafe mechanism agianst a goverment gone amok, but it is, in fact, a tool which men of principal use to uphold the constitution. [even in the face of goverment officials who are derilect in their oath to uphold the constitution]. The fact of the matter is. The 2nd amendment was not written to protect sport hunting or to secure our homes [although these are logical outcroppings of the 2nd amendment]. the second amendment is, at its core, a tool to kill people effectively and easily. Namely the aformentioned goverment official, and their agents, gone amok. While this sounds quite crude and barbaric amoung the more ‘civilized’ amoung us. It is the crux of what our founding fathers intended.
Best Regards, CHOW
4 Richard // Jun 2, 2006 at 11:55 am
Hi, CHOW. Am really enjoying this topic!
The Wikipedia article on The Bill of Rights 1689 says that it’s “a predecessor of the United States Constitution, the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the European Convention on Human Rights.”
In the 1689 version, one of the basic tenets is the “freedom [for Protestants] to have arms for defence, as allowed by law.” This, to me, suggests the intent behind the 2nd Amendment’s intent.
Also, the state of society when the 2nd Amendment came into being says something of the probable intent of its framers. The year was 1789 and there was a lively debate between the Federalists (who favored stronger government) and the Antifederalists (who were skeptical of stronger federal government).
According to the Wikipedia article on the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, the language of the 2nd Amendment went through various changes that also give us clues as to the intent behind the amendment. Here is the very first wording of the then-proposed amendment:
“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country; but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.”
It seems quite instructive, to me, to carefully consider the various changes of the wording that would become our 2nd Amendment. I believe the original intent was to arm the people, in part, as a measure ensuring that no matter how strong government became, the people would always retain the right to overthrow it if it began moving toward tyranny.
I encourage you to read about this when you have time; I think you’ll enjoy it very much.
Have a great day!
5 Return // Jun 2, 2006 at 3:21 pm
The Bible tells us to Obey God, not man:
Acts 5:29:
29Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
The Bible teaches us that the King is to fear God. And we are living in a time when our leaders are not showing the fear of GOd, but removing him from our schools etc. Our leader’s have made gay marriage legal and that clearly shows no fear of God.
God has shown us that we are to obey him over our leaders:
Daniel, who would not obey the king, was thrown in the fire and the angel of the Lord protected him.
King Herod told the wise men to go and tell him where Christ was and God told them NOT to return to King Herod.
Christ didn’t say to obey the king but beware…he told us to “beware of the leaven of Herod”
Mordecai wouldn’t obey the king:
Esther 3: 2And all the king’s servants, that were in the king’s gate, bowed, and reverenced Haman: for the king had so commanded concerning him. But Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence.
3Then the king’s servants, which were in the king’s gate, said unto Mordecai, Why transgressest thou the king’s commandment? 4Now it came to pass, when they spake daily unto him, and he hearkened not unto them, that they told Haman, to see whether Mordecai’s matters would stand: for he had told them that he was a Jew. 5And when Haman saw that Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence, then was Haman full of wrath. 6And he thought scorn to lay hands on Mordecai alone; for they had shewed him the people of Mordecai: wherefore Haman sought to destroy all the Jews that were throughout the whole kingdom of Ahasuerus, even the people of Mordecai.
Does this King, who wants to “destroy the Jews” follow God? Fear God? Would you obey this man? Remember in the book of Acts, Peter said we should obey God not man.
This doctrine to obey was our leaders (written by Paul) was said to be used by Hitler to get the christians behind him. And it contradicts God, and the examples of those who obeyed God over man. See link below:
http://www.returntorighteouseness@blogspot.com
Paul was not correct and his gospel is false. He was not ordained by Christ as an apostle (Matthew chapter 10) He lied to us regarding his converstion as he has 2 different accounts (acts 22 and acts 26) He teaches doctrine contrary to Christ, Matthew and Mark. I have an entry on my blog which goes over many facts which prove he was not an apostle. See my other posting
6 Maurice // Jun 2, 2006 at 3:35 pm
The Bible is certainly anti-authoritarian in many instances, from Lot and his family defying the leaders of Soddom and Gomorrah to Jesus chasing the moneychangers from the template, but that’s not the message that’s been carried down to the people for a while.
Modern churches have taken to using the Bible as a literal message from God, making it an ultimate authority which must be followed, which breeds a mentality of following the leader rather than questioning the leader.
I will say that having two parents as Lutheran pastors, neither of them have been approached in such a fashion and it would appear that the DHS and FEMA are looking for a certain type of pastor, probably those that do espouse the Bible as literal truth.
7 passing // Aug 15, 2006 at 11:04 pm
Your right sidebar is covering up your main text so I can’t read it.
8 Richard // Aug 15, 2006 at 11:57 pm
Thanks for the heads up… what browser are you using? I can see this page fine in both IE and Firefox… are you by chance using a different browser?
Please do tell… I want to make this layout work with all browsers in use by my visitors.
Thanks!
9 Lyn // Sep 7, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Found the guy who provided the information, communicated with the news man at KSLA, Actually read the documentaion. communicated with CEOT in OHIO. This story is a total fabrication.
10 Bernie // Sep 8, 2007 at 11:27 pm
Hi, Lyn. Glad to hear what you’ve found… how about sharing some link with the rest of us? Talk is cheap… cough up the link(s), please. Thank!
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